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January 4th, 2012

There's no point to it any more, not since Arisia '08. Is there a way to close it, and if so how? See previous entry. I'm still a maintainer, it seems; is there an owner? jducoeur, I voted for you (see prev. post). The "owner" can close a blog.

February 17th, 2011

Owner vote???

The last entry on this LJ community was on January 24th, 2008.  I got this email today from LJ:

Dear  thnidu ,

You're receiving this email because you're one of the maintainers of the community  aljcommpanel08 . LiveJournal has recently implemented an additional role in community management. Moving forward, each community will have one designated Owner, who will be the only user permitted to perform high-level tasks, such as deleting maintainers or deleting/renaming the community. You can read more about the Owner role here: http://www.livejournal.com/support/faqbrowse.bml?faqid=225 .

Since  aljcommpanel08  has multiple maintainers, it is now up to you and the other maintainers of the community to select which of you will be designated as Owner. A poll has been created for your community at this page . Visit this page and vote for which current maintainer you believe should be made Owner of the community. You can read more information on the election process at the above-referenced FAQ.

LiveJournal Team

As far as I'm concerned, this LJ community is no longer needed at all and can be dispensed with. According to the poll there are three maintainers: me, jducoeur , and gnomi .  I voted for J. because s/he's the first one on the list, and I thought "anyone but me".

January 24th, 2008

[Crossposting to my own journal and the aljcommpanel08 community -- we may as well make some use of that, since it exists and is on the topic.]

So here's a sticky and interesting question that came up during the "LiveJournal and the Nature of Community" panel last weekend. I don't have a clear answer, so I'm curious to get peoples' thoughts.

One point that came up in the panel was the problem of people deleting posts. If I make a post, I "own" that post, and can do more or less what I want to it. If you think of LJ as a blogging system, that makes some sense: they're my posts, so I can delete or edit them if I want.

But what if you don't think of it as a blogging system? If you think of the post as the head of a conversation instead, ownership becomes much stickier. Do I have the right to delete everybody else's comments? This can become a pretty fraught question (which is why it came up in the panel) -- if others are saying significant but uncomfortable things, do I have the right to delete them?

This question is even sharper for CommYou, because I'm quite clear that this is *not* a blogging system. The differences between LJ and CommYou are going to be subtle, but the primary difference is that CommYou is specifically about conversations, *not* posts: I'm emphasizing the community more deliberately than LJ does. I currently have a concept of ownership written into the stories that is similar to LJ's, including stories allowing me to delete individual responses and entire conversations, but it's far from clear that that is the best solution.

So I'd love to get folks' thoughts on this. I have some ideas of possible middle-ground solutions -- for example, allowing someone to tear a subthread off and take ownership of that, even if the owner removes it from the original conversation -- but nothing definite yet. So insights and ideas would be welcomed.

There are other, related issues -- for example, whether one should be able to retroactively change the top-post silently, which is a fine mechanism for subtle abuse of the conversation. Thoughts on any of these ownership-related points are also invited...

January 20th, 2008

Ask the panelists

V. atalanta
Got questions? We got answers. Maybe they match!
Online communities have been around a long time now -- email lists, Usenet, bulletin boards, MUDs, etc., etc., etc. How has LJ changed things? How has LJ redefined online community?
What makes a community a community? When you say "community" what do you mean by it? What are the assumptions about communities which get wrapped into the term?
Tell us about your community -- or communities! What has been your experience with the intersection of community and LJ? Community on LJ? Community through LJ? Communities not on LJ effected by LJ?


V. atalanta
This is the LJ comm for the "Livejournal and the Nature of Community" panel at Arisia '08. (Sunday, 2pm in room "Mollly Pitcher").

From the program description:
LJ has risen above all of the other blogging sites, to become the site of choice. Why? Community -- a sense of community tht was built into LJ, that the other sites don't have the programming to accomodate. And as LJ grew, the community has grown as well, with thousands of mini-communities. How is LJ your community?

This community is being maintained and moderated by the panelists [well, it will be as soon as we convince LJ to cough up the last moderator invite email!]

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